Army Officer Told He Can’t Enter Daughters School Because He Is In Uniform

 

 

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Rochester Michigan – I have to wonder what people are thinking when someone in the Military is turned away from their own daughter’s school because they are in uniform! This is the United States of America, our Military personnel put their lives on the line to provide the freedoms we so enjoy, which includes the freedom to purse an education!

Well a security guard at one school in Rochester Michigan(Rochester Adams High School), turned away a father of a high school student, telling him he couldn’t enter the school because his uniform might offend some of the students! I am in shock that someone has actually said this to one of our service members, at a school in America!

(Courtesy MyFoxDetroit)

Lieutenant colonel Sherwood Baker was just a father trying to help his daughter find her way at her new high school.

Sherwood who has served in the Army for 24 years was told by Rochester Adams high school security that if he wanted to get into the high school with his daughter he was going to have to go home and change his clothes. 

Baker’s wife Rachel Ferhadson says, “before he was allowed in the security guard stopped him and said sorry your not allowed in the school.” Security told him men and women in uniform weren’t allowed because it may offend another student.”

He was simply coming to the school to speak with his daughter’s counselor regarding her class schedule but was turned away at the doors because he was not wearing a tie. 

Rochester Schools superintendent Robert Shaner who is a veteran himself quickly took care of the situation apologizing to the family for their troubles.

Shaner sent a letter to Fox 2 which says, “the district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.” 

The Baker family has scheduled a meeting with the principal of Adams high school in the coming days. 

 

 

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Seems to me this security guard is the one who needs to apologize to this service member and his daughter! This man is serving our country, it’s not like he showed up to the high school wearing a prisoners outfit! I am at a loss for words about what this security guard was thinking! We sent an email to the Superintendent of the school as well, to see if he could explain why the guard would even think that members of our armed services wouldn’t be allowed in the school while in uniform.

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56 comments on “Army Officer Told He Can’t Enter Daughters School Because He Is In Uniform
    • Only problem is technically when the security officer turned the LTC away it can be seen as trespassing. There have been some stories were parents have walked onto campus to get children and arrested because they didn’t get authority to walk onto campus (it doesn’t stick but depending on the responding officer they sometimes push the issue and off you go in hand cuffs). However I would have stood there and demanded the principal in person immediately to personally phone both the superintendent and the guards supervisor.

  1. Of the people for the people…. What is wrong with this security officer. Probably didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to be a soldier himself. Damn shame.

  2. #1. Security gaurd is an idiot.
    #2. Schools receive money from the government for military members children to attend there.
    Tell that school to piss off & take the $$ & your kids elsewhere.
    Let them know they are welcome for the freedom to be an idiot you provide them.

    • Do you realize the secuirty gaurd is hired from an outside firm right and isn’t a direct employee of the school? Also do you realize that the district responded right away and apologized and said they have no policy about people in uniform? You should be praising the school.

    • Chris – I responded to this yesterday – however, it didn’t get posted. Probably because someone on here didn’t want to know the facts.
      First of all – yes, security guard might be an idiot – however, he is paid probably $8.00/hour by an outside company that the district hires. The district DID respond immediately and apologize. The district now needs to take the matter up with the firm they hired.
      #2 – ALL public schools receive money from the government for each student that attends – they DO NOT receive EXTRA money for military members children. I don’t know where you got you got your information on that one – but it’s dead wrong.
      Any parent, at any time, has the right to take their children out of any school and enroll them in a school of their choice, if there is room at the school of choice for their child. Not all school have spots open. However, you also have the right to put your child in a private school at your own expense.

      • Sara…I’m not sure where you get some of your information but it’s completely wrong. School districts DO get additional funding from the federal government for educating military children. It’s called Impact Aid and is intended to compensate districts who have lost property tax revenue due to the presence of tax exempt military property and the additional costs of educating military children who wouldn’t otherwise be in the community. This is on top of standard federal education aid. Feel free to check it out: http://www.aasa.org/content.aspx?id=9000

        Second, in most school districts, parents can’t just move their kids into another public school at will. Unless you live in a voucher system, there’s very little leeway. That’s why many people buy houses based on the local school. What does that even have to do with this incident anyway?

      • Sara…I’m not sure where you get some of your information but it’s completely wrong. School districts DO get additional funding from the federal government for educating military children. It’s called Impact Aid and is intended to compensate districts who have lost property tax revenue due to the presence of tax exempt military property and the additional costs of educating military children who wouldn’t otherwise be in the community. This is on top of standard federal education aid. Feel free to do some research.

        Second, in most school districts, parents can’t just move their kids into another public school at will. Unless you live in a voucher system, there’s very little leeway. That’s why many people buy houses based on the local school. What does that even have to do with this incident anyway?

        • Jeff – I get my information from being informed. I am a school board member in a neighboring district. I have been on the board for over 8 years. I am very active both at the county level and the state level. That’s where I get my information.
          Also — as I mentioned – there is a school of choice in MANY districts, certainly not all. And I may have mentioned that it’s something to look into; however there are no guarantees if other districts are not accepting “school of choice” students. The choice still remains; however, to send them to a private school – however there would be costs involved with that option.
          I understand people buy houses within certain school districts for a reason – at least most of the time. That doesn’t have anything to do with this incident – just a matter of fact that if you don’t like something – you always have options – although some of them are more severe than others.

          • Sara…If you’re a school board member, how can you NOT know about DoD Impact Aid? That doesn’t sound very “informed” at all. I guess it’s possible that your district doesn’t meet the requirements for it if you have virtually no military kids in your schools (and therefore you never deal with it) but it DOES apply in Rochester. I know because I lived there and filled out the survey each year. It’s also clearly spelled out in the school district operating budget every year. I just looked at it for confirmation that it was still in effect. Linking automatically kicks comments into moderation but you should have no trouble looking that up yourself.

            So are you saying that I’m mistaken? That Impact Aid does NOT exist and that districts do NOT receive additional federal funding to compensate them for lost property tax revenue (as clearly articulated in the link that got through in one of my comments above)? Or are you admitting that you aren’t particularly well informed after all on this particular topic? It’s one or the other. If the former, then you’re going to have to explain away the clear evidence of its existence.

          • You responded just as I knew you would, why is it that men and women put on that uniform to go into battle, you have no problems with that, do you. Unless you have strapped on a pair of COMBAT boots don’t proceed to tell any active duty or VETERAN when and where he/she can wear their uniforms. It that uniform, which by the way is worn by proud men and women who fight daily so your ass can walk comfortably down the street, offends you in any way, allow me to help you move to a third world country where you don’t have freedom to speak or communicate your true colors, and just like here in “THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” security guards are a dime a dozen.But you seem to think that choice of schools and budget cuts is the answer to it all. WAKE-UP SARA we the people hold the almighty DOLLAR above all that really matters, HELL your a school board member doesn’t it bother you that pay raises for teachers and board members takes priority over the youth of today who deserve an education. Sara, in all sincerity invite you to bend at the waist and place your head back in your ass, YOU DON;T HAVE A CLUE. Your Welcome!!!

          • Hey “Meatman”…While I agree with your general sentiments, you need to dial it back about 5 notches. You’re all over the map today with weird rambling comments. Have you been drinking? Just step away from the keyboard and come back tomorrow with a clearer head and a little more sanity.

  3. As the wife of a veteran, a sister of 2 vets, and the daughter and granddaughter of veterans I am appaled!!! How dare that security guard turn him away! Maybe he should join up and see how he likes being treated by civilians! What a prick!! And I am being NICE!

    • As the daughter of a WWII vet, sister of 4 vets and mother to 2 active duty sons, I am beyond appalled!! It’s amazing to me that the only time you hear anyone screaming about being offended is when it’s either against our military, our freedom of religion, freedom of speech or conservative values, which is what our country was founded on!!! It’s ok to offend as long as it’s against those that believe in the aforementioned.

  4. What. The. Hell? Since when does our uniform offend anyone but terrorists? The fact that a fellow American would even think such a thing, let alone speak such nonsense is troubling. It sounds like the LTC handled it far better than I would have. I wear my uniform with pride and will be damned if someone says it is offensive.

  5. To set a standard, FIRE the Superintendent and Principle! These are the VERY HIGH PAID people in charge of the people in our public schools. If they are setting policy like this, or hiring stupid contract employees, they should be fired , right after they apologize to the army officer.

    • Perhaps you didn’t actually read the article, the super (who is a vet) stated very clearly that it is not their policy, and that they would be working with the districts and the firm who does their security to “make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.” in other words, the right people are getting fired for this.

  6. Another power hungry rent a cop with a God complex. Check his record, he’s most likely been declined entrance to the police academy on a psych disqualification. Probably the military too.

  7. Ignorant and dumb people like this don’t belong in schools, this dirt bag guard needs to be placed somewhere else where his prejudice is not going to affect how a soldier is to be treated. ignorance isn’t an excuse

  8. Perhaps he needs to spend some time in another country to find out what he really does?!?? This would certainly change his mind…. I’m thinking a week in Chile, Mexico, Russia or even the UAE.

    • Chile, Mexico, Russia and especially UAE sounds like a vacation trip to me…..send him to Mosul so he can hang out with his ISIS buddies, with a layover in Iran….that would be a more appropriate trip for this douche bag guard.

  9. Not the superintendent, just the security guard. The superintendent said there was no rule against them entering the school, the security guard probably wanted to be the only one in the school in uniform.

  10. Or maybe, he meant, some of the kids would be reminded that their mom/dad is away fighting, or recently killed on the offended part, but should have handled it differently, everyone jumps to conclusions without the whole story.

    • Kim…This was a school with a very low population of military children. Plus the military that is stationed there are working on acquisition projects. These aren’t combat units with people regularly deployed. I’d be surprised if any child in the entire school had a parent deployed.

      I agree with you about jumping to conclusions but idle speculation with no basis is just as bad.

  11. Aaron Hodgden, you’re just as ridiculous as the security guard with your ignorant “also probably gay” comment. Seriously? Thanks to the rest for making valid points.

  12. If it had happened to me this is how it would have gone down. Mr. Security Officer you may accompany me into the principals office if you wish but that’s where I am going right now. Ms Principal, I serve my country with honor and wear this uniform with pride. Please summon the Superintendent immediately. Ms Superintendent, I pay my taxes and the U.S. Gov’t pays you for my child to attend this school. There is no way I will be told I can’t enter the school where my child is now being taught. I now demand that the security guard be fired and you are on notice that my child will be immediately be removed from your school.

  13. Clearly most of you have not read the entire article. It looks as though the issue was appropriately elevated and is being appropriately handled.

    This is directly from the article:

    “Rochester Schools superintendent Robert Shaner who is a veteran himself quickly took care of the situation apologizing to the family for their troubles.

    Shaner sent a letter to Fox 2 which says, “the district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.”

    The Baker family has scheduled a meeting with the principal of Adams high school in the coming days.”

  14. The security guard was an idiot. Simple. Case closed. Not allowing a soldier in uniform into the building, is not, and was not the school policy. FOX news has to find every dumb story the can. Have them interview the security guard for a story.

  15. I actually go to this school and today there was a huge out pouring of support by people wearing red, white, and blue or camouflage. This is not district or school policy and it was stupid for him not to let him in.

  16. Not only the security guard should apologize but it said 4 others also told the father in uniform that he wasn’t allowed. So those persons should apologize also n i would like to know who they all were! Heat shouldn’t be only on security guard should be on all of them n they should all be ashamed of themselves. !!!!!!!

  17. I for the most part agree with about half of these comments. There is a right way and a wrong way to respond to this situation, your Military training should have taught you that. The security guard certainly crossed the line, he probably can’t even spell RESPECT. When a Military service member makes an off-the wall-comment or commits any sort of wrong-doing, WE are held accountable for our actions. I think it’s time for this security officer to feel the same reprimand, a PUBLIC APOLOGY in that city, and televised on a national channel, ABC or NBC, but it needs to be done , and done sooner than later. I served my country for 61/2 years in the U.S.ARMY, and don’t regret any of it, hold my head high, I challenge ANY flaky security guard to deny me any entry to anywhere, especially if I was in ANY military apparel.

  18. This is horrible reporting and the worst of our “TMZ” society.

    Fact: You must have an appointment to speak with a counselor at the school. The dad did not have an appointment, nor did he request to set one up. The video says “he was stopped at the door.”

    Fact: Military personnel must also have appointments to speak and recruit at the school – just like college recruiters.

    Does anybody remember the Rochester board meeting where parents complained that their students were being harassed by military recruiters within the school? It’s a classic example of “not in my back yard.” Yes, students should listen to military recruiters, but once one of them calls my house to follow up, I don’t want anything to do with it. We respect the military, but it’s not for our kid type of thing – ESPECIALLY at THEE ROCHESTER ADAMS.

    So, if you show up at the school without an appointment, either way the security guards are supposed to stop you. The article never states that the dad requested to speak to the administration and/or what administration said about the matter (because he never spoke to them). If the security guard had said something stupid to me and wouldn’t let me in the building, I would call the administration and/or office and request to speak to an administrator. It never says he was turned away by the administrators or even ignored.

    Instead, he goes outside and calls WJR news and says he wasn’t allowed in because of his uniform…which probably means the security guard tried to explain policies that he vaguely knew and the dad took it as “they won’t let me in because of my uniform.” When the other security guards arrived, they probably concurred that he still needed an appointment to get into the school and told him “no” as well. Now, there are followers out there constantly calling the school and the district and wasting their time to deal with real issues. Where was FOX 2 when the school recognized the wrestling coach at an assembly in front of 1,500 for his courageous efforts before he was deployed? Or the fact that the school has sent several dozen students to West Point.

    Hurrah for this dad for being around and wanting to help his kid. Hurrah for him for making the ultimate sacrifice. Shame on his decision to go straight to the media – if he went to Dr. Shaner this security guard would obviously still be in trouble and the policy would be made clear enough to all security because it would be tatooed on their rear ends.

    • Ryan…Your post had a massive number of “probably’s” and “maybe’s”. Not to mention you’re simply wrong in multiple statements. If you had bothered to read more news reporting about this story before launching your speculative post, you’d know that the father DID have an appointment with a counselor. The daughter and counselor were waiting for him in her office. Second, he didn’t go back to his car and call,the news media. He went back to his car and called the counselor who then came out and escorted him through a side door for the appointment. The wife was the one who was outraged and notified the media when the school administrators defended the guard’s actions. The distinct superintendent did the right thing but the school itself was exercising an informal policy.

      Maybe the guard was independently stupid or maybe he was following the guidance somebody issued to him. If it was the latter, then corrective action needs to be taken. I have no doubt the superintendent will do just that.

      • jeff maxindc . Were you ever in any branch of the ARMED FORCES? If you were you must have been that little bitch settin behind the desk and praying to go home to mommy ASAP. Did you ever walk through a seemingly peaceful field jeff only to have half your body ripped loose and thrown across the field, I doubt you ever did, your replies sound like ,what’s that language, politicians BULLSHIT. You jeff are one of the herd of sheep being mis-lead by an ill informed SARA RUSSO MURRAY. I challenge you Jeffrey to approach any member of any branch of the MILITARY and tell him you don’t approve of him/her wearing their uniform in public, and if you should locate your testicles over there in the jar where mommy put them for you, please tell me where to send them back to cause most definitely at some point they will depart from your worthless ass. Your Welcome.

        • Glenn…I’m a serving Army infantryman. You and I are on the same side here. I’ve never said anything to suggest that I think LTC Baker did anything wrong. I’ve been defending his actions from the beginning.

          In all seriousness, you don’t sound well right now. Your latest responses don’t sound like your others. You sound a little unhinged. Either you’re drunk (in which case you need to go sleep it off) or there’s something else wrong with you and you need to call a friend or family member to come check you out.

  19. How would the uniform offend other students? If this school is like every other high school out there, then there is a JROTC program. I know my daughters school has one and she is in it and on the drill team. They have to wear a uniform every wednesday. If wearing a uniform prevents you from going into the school, then I’m sure every student would want to join ROTC to have wednesday off since they can’t enter school on a uniform day. This sorry sack of crap needs to be fired.

  20. Seems I remember that you could not wear the ACU duty uniform just anywhere. To and from duty locations was about it. The uniform IS NOT to be worn around attending to personal chores.

    I say “GOOD JOB” security guard!

    • @Shilo Watts Nope…Completely wrong. Regardless of what you “seem to remember”, AR 6701-1 says specifically “Soldiers may wear the combat uniform off-post, unless prohibited by the commander.” Neither TACOM nor AMC (to which he was assigned) have such a local prohibition so he was well within the regs.

      Even if he WAS in violation of a uniform regulation, it’s not for some random security guard unaffiliated with the military to enforce since that’s an internal requirement. Unless he’s in violation of civilian laws or school codes, it’s not within the purview of any civilian to make a punitive correction – especially because a civilian may not be fully versed in the specifics of the regulations (as you’ve just demonstrated).

  21. Sara Russo Murray and Jeff Maxindc should really get a room and be home schooled about Army attire and when and where it’s ALLOWED to be worn. I for one belief I’ll wear any part of an Army uniform issued to me any DAMN place I feel like it. That Keystone cop security guard dog should aproprieately pack himself a three course dinner, it’s gonna be his longest shift,,and the ride is gonna be a bumby one. I STAND……ARMY PROUD. YOUR WELCOME

    • Dude…WTF? Is there something wrong with your reading skills? Have you even looked at any of my posts? Exactly what have I said that you disagree with? You need to get a grip and re-read before bringing my name into your little rant.

  22. Nope.

    you are so wrong!!

    As the security guard stated he thought maybe the army dude was armed or going to shoot the babies at the school. I say GOOD JOB guard, YOU deserve the metal of honor!!

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